Law in the Formation of the Citizen, Law as a Form of Education, The Legislative Process, and Justification for Any Law

Unit 5 Discussion – Law in the Formation of the Citizen, Law as a Form of Education, The Legislative Process, and Justification for Any Law

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NLT 11:59 pm ET, 17 FEB 2024, please make at least ONE (1) original threaded discussion entry commenting upon any one (1) of the following questions (and ALL of the sub-questions contained therein), and at least ONE (1) response to someone else’s original threaded discussion entry regarding:

ALL ANSWER THIS QUESTION:

How does de Oliveira’s discussion of Plato and Philosophy of Education compare and contrast to what you understood Plato to say about this subject?  How do Plato and de Oliveira compare and contrast to your own philosophy of education?

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Please also discuss any one or more of the following: (discuss 2 or 3)

How does Hicks’s modern conceptualization of citizen and the legal person compare and contrast with what you have read of Plato’s classical era philosophizing on the law and / in society?  How do Plato and Hicks compare and contrast to your own concept of citizen and the legal person?

Since our last unit week, have you used any new secondary readings like learned treatises, articles, and books (perhaps using our site on Useful Online Resources / Search Engines For Classical JurisprudenceLinks to an external site.), and if you have what are they, where did you find them, and how did they contribute to your understanding and appreciation of our materials?  Which secondary readings have you returned to, or continued to rely upon from week to week?

Considering all you have read and thought about, were citizens born (“nature”), formed (“nurture”), or both, in classical times?  In modern times?  Please explain common and contrasting concepts of citizenship between and among modern societies.

How was law a form of education in classical times?  Is it still a form of education in modern times? You may, but not need also comment upon this week’s Optional Viewing – Pauline Schneider on Law, Lawering and CitizenshipLinks to an external site..

Have Plato’s concepts of the legislative process ever been successfully implemented in any society?  If not, why not, if yes, why yes?

Who was – and who should have been – responsible for justification for any law, according to Plato, in classical times?  Who presently is – and who should be – responsible in modern times? Are these individuals or entities similar or different comparing and contrasting classical and modern times?

LINKS TO USE FOR REFERENCE:

Plato, Books 6 through 9, to discern law in the formation of the citizen, or polites, law as a form of education, the legislative process, and justification for any law  (HINT:  For an online version of The Laws, see http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/laws.html)
(Also available for download as a text file at  http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/laws.mb.txt)

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Renato José de Oliveira. (1999). Plato and Philosophy of Education . In Encyclopaedia of Philosophy of Education, M. Peters, P. Ghiraldelli, B. Žarnić, A. Gibbons (eds.). Retrieved 6 August, 2013 from http://www.ffst.hr/ENCYCLOPAEDIA/doku.php?id=plato_and_philosophy_of_education.

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Stephen C. Hicks, On the Citizen and the Legal Person: Toward the Common Ground of Jurisprudence, Social Theory, and Comparative Law as the Premise of a Future Community, and the Role of the Self Therein , 59 U. Cin. L. Rev. 789 (1990-1991)

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Your contemporary experience and education on the the formation of the citizen, law as a form of education, the legislative process, and justification for any law.

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