# 4 Discussion Post: The Elusive Nature of Happiness and the Presence of Suffering
Howdy! There are two aspects to this discussion post.
First, answer the following question:
(1) Why is human happiness ever so elusive suffering and human problems are ever so effortlessly and naturally present according to Buddha, Confucious, and Lao Tzu?
After exploring their answers, (2) share your own reflection of what you think of their answers (1000 words minimal, no maximum word count). Be sure to justify any truth-claims you make. As always, be sensitive to context.
To help orient you to this question, there are key ideas to understand.
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